taranoire:

Let’s be real: when white fan boys say they agree with Thanos it’s because they feel safe. They think themselves too important to be a victim. They imagine themselves as an intellectually minded arbiter of balance. When they say that *some* people should be sacrificed for the greater good, they have *very specific* groups in mind.

And that is why although Thanos’ actions are not the academic definition of genocide, they’re a macrocosmic metaphor for it, and I will continue to refer to it as such.

The same thing happened after TDW. I pointed out that in the first movie, Thor’s act of heroism was to figure out that genocide is bad and stop Loki from committing it. Then in TDW, the central heroic act was… genocide. Committed by Thor. And Bor had a statue 60 feet tall commemorating his incomplete genocide of the Dark Elves. But Loki must’ve just been evil to think that genociding a species he had been taught to regard as monstrous, and which was at war with his realm, was a good thing to do. Yes.

Anyway, the pretzels people twisted themselves into to try to deny that Thor murdering every remaining Dark Elf was not genocide were truly stunning. One person said that it’s not genocide if you’re at war with the species you wipe out. (In that case, Loki’s attack on Jotunheim was not genocide.) Another condescendingly explained that Thor, Odin and Bor committed *good* genocide while Loki attempted *bad* genocide.

Loki’s movies give you a harrowing glimpse into the darker reaches of the human soul.

taranoire:

fairy-changeling

vellicour But they DID exist they weren’t “unmade”…

This is just reminding me that it was considered a great alternative to gas people in the Holocaust because it was less bloody than shooting them in mass graves so it made the Nazi’s less upset about the murders they committed and was more cost effective. I just want to be sick

^ This is exactly what I was thinking of. 

This is also why Nazis and other genocidal groups are big on forced sterilization and selective abortion. It’s “more humane” and easier for them to propagate than more graphic forms of violence. That doesn’t make it any less evil or completely insane. 

taranoire:

I think we all need to remember that every genocide has been perpetuated for “good reasons,” in the eyes of their makers. And we need to especially remember that none of their reasons, no matter how intellectual or well thought out, are anything other than completely fucking nuts. 

taranoire:

mosellegreen:

taranoire:


vellicour

But they DID exist they weren’t “unmade” they were crumbled to dust. And rich people are still going to capitalize and over use and hoard resources anyway

even if it was painless, even if it was a matter of “unmaking” them, that would still be genocide. that is still a horrific disregard for the value of individual human lives. this is preposterous. am I in the twilight zone??? 

…So crumbling inconvenient people to dust is an ethical way to be rid of them???

That’s what they don’t get. They think that it being relatively painless is somehow “ethical.” As if historical genocides haven’t been quiet, quick, and bloodless. As if it’s the method and intent of genocide is all that matters; that maybe it is for the greater good to kill entire subsets of people. 

It makes my skin crawl to even have to say this shit. 

taranoire:


vellicour

But they DID exist they weren’t “unmade” they were crumbled to dust. And rich people are still going to capitalize and over use and hoard resources anyway

even if it was painless, even if it was a matter of “unmaking” them, that would still be genocide. that is still a horrific disregard for the value of individual human lives. this is preposterous. am I in the twilight zone??? 

…So crumbling inconvenient people to dust is an ethical way to be rid of them???

taranoire:

starryweever

This keeps reminding me of dragon age fandom where people woobify Solas’ motivations for literal genocide. sorry for interrupting lol

wow you’re 100% correct!! it’s fucking bonkers, why do straight white men keep writing this same narrative of a self-insert power fantasy who commits genocide for “good reasons”???? AND WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP DEFENDING IT????AHHH

i.e. Thor genociding the Dark Elves, which his grandfather Bor tried to do but didn’t quite finish and got a statue 60 feet tall for the attempt.

And Odin condemning the frost giants to slow genocide by stealing their Casket.

So wait, why was Loki a villain again?