urbanspaceman:

be-a-snake-stab-your-brother:

Is anyone else intensely curious as to exactly how Loki managed to overpower Odin at the end of Dark World? And keep him on Earth at least to start? Like, that’s kiiiiind of a huge deal. Our local Jotun mage has some serious skills.

But seriously, inquiring minds want to know.

Apparently he stabbed him with a knife, since that’s his only go-to move.

A small knife.

ask-frostiron:

catwinchester:

lokiloveforever:

juliabohemian:

lasimo74allmyworld:

starrynightfantasies:

marvelmarbler:

Goodbye brother.

No. I’m sorry but this is absolutely not true. Thor never really protected Loki from anything or anyone. Thor spent the entirety of the first movie treating Loki like his personal servant- “Know your place, brother.” -Those are not the words of someone who views his brother as an equal or someone he’s protecting. He dragged Loki into Jotunheim (even if Loki DID bring the Jotnar into Asgard, Thor didn’t know it and Loki tried to talk him out of going).

In Avengers, Thor spent the entire time manhandling Loki and threatening him. NEVER ONCE did he ask Loki if HE NEEDED HELP. NOT. ONE. DAMN. TIME. The closest he came to asking what had happened was- “Who controls the would-be king?”

Then in TTDW, Loki was only allowed out of prison because Thor couldn’t do the job himself. And Thor never realized that the reason Loki faked his death was to get out of going back to the dungeons.

Thor doesn’t deserve Loki’s life. Loki deserves to have HIS OWN LIFE without the expectations and constraints that have been placed upon him for so long by Thor and Odin.

Fight me.

Fight us.

“No. I’m sorry but this is absolutely not true. Thor never really protected Loki from anything or anyone.”

THIS to infinity.

I would echo what @starrynightfantasies has said here. Thor showed no concern for Loki during the first Thor film, or during the first Avengers film, or even during The Dark World. Thor broke Loki out of prison out of self interest. He fully intended to put him right back in that cell, as soon as he no longer needed him. 

I would argue that we don’t know why Loki faked his death -because we haven’t been told explicitly. Most likely because that was never the ending the writers intended for TDW, and it was only changed later on.

Loki is not indebted to anyone. If anything, Thor is indebted to him. Without Loki’s intervention at the end of Ragnarok, there would have been no survivors. Without Loki’s intervention at the end of TDW, Jane and possibly Thor, would both be dead.

These are lovely gifs though. So I don’t want you to think this is a commentary on your gif making skills. 

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It’s worth noting too that on Jotunheim, Thor started the fight that put his friends in grave danger but it was Loki who then saved their lives.

Loki saved at least Sif and Fandral’s lives (I forget if there were any others, it’s been a while) but Thor was too busy claiming “glory” or some such shit to have his friend’s backs during the battle.

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YES

kittyprincessofcats:

mcfiddlestan:

icyxmischief:

ynathesrith:

philosopherking1887:

kittyprincessofcats:

“There’s nothing else left for Loki to do in the MCU! His story’s over!”

Well, personally I’ve barely seen any of the things I’ve wanted Loki to do so far, so here’s a list. Things that Loki should still do / that should still happen to Loki in the MCU:

– Loki having an actual deep conversation with Thor about why he’s angry and what went wrong in their relationship. Thor actually apologizing for treating Loki badly when they were younger. Thor and Loki hugging. (You know, kind of like the talk Gamora and Nebula got to have at the end of GotG2.)

– Other characters actually acknowledging that Odin wronged Loki and that (even though he went about it all wrong) Loki had a right to be upset. Thor acknowledging that Loki’s slights were not “imagined”.

– Loki meeting the Avengers again, becoming the snarky “villain-turned-ally” character (think Zuko from AtlA), and fighting alongside them

– Loki coming to terms with his Jotun heritage. We got a bit of this in Infinity War, but I wanted so much more, like:

– Loki changing into his Jotun form – and finding out what exactly Odin did to make him look Aesir in the first place

– Loki using his ice powers (and Tony wasting no time to nickname him ‘Elsa’ or ‘Jack Frost’)

– Loki travelling to Jotunheim to find out more about his birth culture. Meeting his biological siblings (and Thor getting jealous about it). Getting to hear the other side of the story of the war. Finding out how much of the story Odin told Loki about finding him abandoned as a baby is actually true and how much Odin invented to make himself look better. Dealing with any feelings of guilt Loki might have about killing Laufey and trying to destroy Jotunheim.

– Loki meeting the GotG and just getting to interact with them

– Loki and Gamora bonding over their similar backstories (I’ll make a whole other post about this at some point…)

– Loki and Nebula becoming snarky BFFs who bond over their pain and play pranks on their siblings together

– Mantis describing Loki’s own feelings of self-loathing to him

– Loki’s bisexuality/non-straightness actually being adressed (for example through him admitting he had an affair with the Grandmaster?)

– Loki coming out as genderfluid and shape-shifting into Lady Loki (played by Katie McGrath or Eva Green)

– Loki and Thor travelling to Heven and finding their long-lost sister Angela

– Loki living on Earth and becoming BFFs with Verity Willis

– For some reason I really want to see Loki running a night club on Earth

Feel free to add to the list

The thing is… I think a lot of the people saying Loki doesn’t have anything left to do or his story is over simply don’t recognize that Loki had any good reasons for being angry and upset, that the slights against him weren’t imagined, that Thor ever treated Loki badly or bore any responsibility for the poor state of their relationship. They seem to think (like Taika Waititi, apparently) that Loki was just being an asshole for no reason and that the only thing Thor was doing wrong or needed to change was continuing to reach out to Loki and offer him his love and trust.

So agree with all this.

:))))) 

This, my friends, is exactly what fanfiction is for. Because, lbr, we won’t ever get any of this in the MCU. But I could definitely (with the permission of OP, ofc), take a stab at writing either a whole long fic or connected vignettes even. Because all of this is amazing.

OP here, and YES PLEASE! Feel free to write any of this! And tag me in it if you do, so I can read it!!!

(I should mention that some of these ideas were actually inspired be fanfictions I read ages ago and only vaguely remember.)

(And please do me one favour if you write any of this, and don’t make Loki straight. I’m just saying that because there’s people in my notes right now arguing about MCU-Loki’s sexuality (I made a post where I called him an LGBT-character and they got angry about it) and it’s very exhausting…)

kittyprincessofcats:

“There’s nothing else left for Loki to do in the MCU! His story’s over!”

Well, personally I’ve barely seen any of the things I’ve wanted Loki to do so far, so here’s a list. Things that Loki should still do / that should still happen to Loki in the MCU:

– Loki having an actual deep conversation with Thor about why he’s angry and what went wrong in their relationship. Thor actually apologizing for treating Loki badly when they were younger. Thor and Loki hugging. (You know, kind of like the talk Gamora and Nebula got to have at the end of GotG2.)

– Other characters actually acknowledging that Odin wronged Loki and that (even though he went about it all wrong) Loki had a right to be upset. Thor acknowledging that Loki’s slights were not “imagined”.

– Loki meeting the Avengers again, becoming the snarky “villain-turned-ally” character (think Zuko from AtlA), and fighting alongside them

– Loki coming to terms with his Jotun heritage. We got a bit of this in Infinity War, but I wanted so much more, like:

– Loki changing into his Jotun form – and finding out what exactly Odin did to make him look Aesir in the first place

– Loki using his ice powers (and Tony wasting no time to nickname him ‘Elsa’ or ‘Jack Frost’)

– Loki travelling to Jotunheim to find out more about his birth culture. Meeting his biological siblings (and Thor getting jealous about it). Getting to hear the other side of the story of the war. Finding out how much of the story Odin told Loki about finding him abandoned as a baby is actually true and how much Odin invented to make himself look better. Dealing with any feelings of guilt Loki might have about killing Laufey and trying to destroy Jotunheim.

– Loki meeting the GotG and just getting to interact with them

– Loki and Gamora bonding over their similar backstories (I’ll make a whole other post about this at some point…)

– Loki and Nebula becoming snarky BFFs who bond over their pain and play pranks on their siblings together

– Mantis describing Loki’s own feelings of self-loathing to him

– Loki’s bisexuality/non-straightness actually being adressed (for example through him admitting he had an affair with the Grandmaster?)

– Loki coming out as genderfluid and shape-shifting into Lady Loki (played by Katie McGrath or Eva Green)

– Loki and Thor travelling to Heven and finding their long-lost sister Angela

– Loki living on Earth and becoming BFFs with Verity Willis

– For some reason I really want to see Loki running a night club on Earth

Feel free to add to the list

What would you like to see from Loki in the movies? (I have seen Infinity War, so feel free to mention spoilers.)

starscreamloki:

Thanks for the question. I got a list, so I hope you have time.

First of all, I want to see what most fans cry out for: Frost Giant Loki and him using his magic. And for that last thing, not some meager tricks, but his full blown Seidr powers.

I would love to see him as the anti-hero, balancing on the thin line between good and evil, just as he was in avengers but than less brainwashed. Mostly because I like his villain-y way of acting, but also because I think this arc was robbed from him in gagnarok.

I’d also love to see him rise above himself. Finally able to accept who he is, whatever that may be for him, and just go with it! I’d love to see him succeed in anything, because in every movie when he almost succeeded at something, he just fell down. There were some minor victories, but I think he deserves a victory that is bigger.

I’d love to see him go in full rage mode, because let’s be honest, even though he has been very angry in the movies, that is not nearly the rage that must be burning his veins.

I really would like (and sleep better probably), if he just threw Thor out of his life. Their relationship is toxic.

I want to see Loki happy for a moment, just a genuine laugh and not his laugh where he always just laughs his pain away. Just, real, happy, for once! It looked like he almost got that on Sakaar, but yet again it got snatched away from him.

I want him to be back in his Avengers or Dark World costume, because those were the ones I loved most!

But what i’d mostly would love to see, for A4, is that Loki’s horrible decision in A3 was just a scam. I want to see that time has been warped and that we start at the end of the first avengers again, that he just ditches Thor, and goes where-ever he wants to be. OR I’d want to see him get a worthy dead. Not just some stabby-stab with his knife and done, but a full blown fight, everything, and a worthy and logical death! I think in the end I just want a reset and get a story where we can pretend gagnarok and IW never ever happened!

mosellegreen:

So guys, the thing about Marvel… the reason most of the movies are so shitty, and that Marvel keeps stabbing us in the back… is that these movies are not made for us.

They are made for young men who just want a release of testosterone by watching muscle-bound guys beat each other up and occasional boobs. The intended audience doesn’t give a flying fuck about character development, or plot logic, or even right and wrong.

Their target audience is the guys who gave the world Gamergate.

Usually we don’t care about this. In a movie starring Jean-Claude Van Damme or something, no one expects complexity or logic, everyone expects punching and explosions.

Unfortunately for us, they accidentally hired a couple of super-talented actors who gave depth to what were supposed to be cardboard characters. And we begged them to follow through and they were really pissed. What are those girls doing in here? How dare they want something good? We’re trying to indulge ourselves in mindless escapism here.

That’s why they keep screwing Loki, alternately torturing his character or giving him stupid scenes. It’s why they hired the worst director currently drawing breath, the loathsome Taika Waititi, to direct Loki’s fourth movie: to punish us for loving Loki.

These movies aren’t for us. Really great things could be made of these raw materials but for the most part they won’t be, no matter how much we beg for a Loki movie that doesn’t try to pretend that some other character is the main one (as if Loki wouldn’t be the central character of any story he was in), or a Black Widow movie, or less whitewashing of characters, or a logical resolution to plots that have spanned several movies, or for Steve and Bucky to get officially married already. They’d make huge bank on these things, but they won’t, because they hate us more than they love money.

Let’s channel our frustration into creating new canons that follow through on their promises. That achieve their potential. The way they back-stabbed us will never stop hurting, but we can create something good out of it.

And those of you who decide to do just that, please, link me. I wanna read or watch it.

I’m so gratified this keeps getting notes. Something I should have mentioned here, but didn’t think of sooner:

Gagnarok implied that Loki was forced to prostitute himself in order to survive as part of Marvel’s punishment for women. “You identify with this guy? Fine, we’ll force him to sell his body! Even though that makes no sense whatsoever! We want you females to remember your place!”

And the way they keep “forgetting” how powerful and clever he is so that he makes idiotic mistakes or is easily overpowered… this is just the usual fictional male overcoming formidable women, Hercules defeating Hippolyte, Achilles defeating Penthesilea, etc., only one step removed because the symbolic woman is a man with some feminine qualities who many women identify with and love.

Just, fellow women, don’t forget how much Marvel hates us. Because they hate us a lot.

So I’ve got some new friends lately, Loki fans who feel kind of the way I did over TDW a few years ago. Some of you might be interested in the pro-Loki meta I wrote back then, linked above. Warning: I hate Marvel, I hate Odin, and to my own grief, I grew to hate Thor. Most stuff is marked so you’ll know what you’re getting into. Just, a few years ago it helped me deal with TDW to read people tearing these movies apart. Maybe you’ll be helped now.

My Loki meta

What do you think Loki’s motive for impersonating Odin was?

themoonandthewanderer:

shine-of-asgard:

lokiloveforever:

ms-cellanies:

lokiloveforever:

I think the main reason was to hide from Thanos, but also because he would’ve rather died than go back to his dungeon cell. I think he was just as surprised that he didn’t die from his wound, and I believe he really did think he was going to. So he took advantage of the situation, and got revenge on Odin, who dearly had it coming! Thanks @themoonandthewanderer

I’d like to add something, if I may @lokiloveforever.  Thor had to enlist the aid of Heimdall to escape from Asgard.  Heimdall admitted to Odin that he had committed treason.  Odin basically lost his mind when Frigga died.  He was willing to risk the lives of every Asgardian to fight the Dark Elves on Asgard.  Thor chose to take the fight elsewhere to protect the Asgardians.  Odin was not fit to rule and Thor chose not to rule.  That left only Loki to assume the position.  To avoid revolution his only option was to disguise himself as Odin.

You are so right @ms-cellanies !! <3<3<3 O din had been dying since the first Thor movie, and was getting unfit to rule, and Thor didn’t want to. Loki stepped up and took the responsibility because he loves his family and Asgard.

I have another take on this: Loki’s “trust my rage” didn’t encompass just the Dark Elves. After Odin threatened him with execution, cut off his contact to Frigga and denied him a chance to mourn her death, Loki had enough rage and so little left to lose, he went back to Asgard for his vengeance. That he didn’t kill Odin after overpowering him says a lot about his self restraint.

Thnaks everyone for your answers!

@lokiloveforever I’m also wondering, how do you feel about what Loki did?

mosellegreen:

Hm. I might have a revised headcanon for Loki.

I’ve always figured, based partly on various hints from the first movie and also on personality probability, that for the past thousand years Loki has been doing a lot of the work of running Asgard. That he expected to pretty much do all the work of ruling all his life when Thor was king while Thor took the credit. And for the past thousand years Thor’s been just running around killing people while Odin’s been just sitting around deciding who Thor would kill next.

The one problem with this is, how did Loki manage to do all this work for a millennium and not notice his father and brother were evil tyrants?

It just occurred to me that this is the mirror image of Tony’s history. Tony was alternately having fun and inventing stuff and let Obadiah Stone run his company for him, which was how Obie was able to misuse SI and Tony’s inventions and fortune for evil. Just because Tony wasn’t paying attention.

Now I suddenly thought, what if Loki’s story is more like that? What if Odin told Loki, Don’t worry about all that stuff, your brother will be the king, you can do magic and read and enjoy yourself.

What if Odin told Loki, Why don’t you find out where there’s some more magical relics on far-off worlds that I can send Thor to steal for the greater good.

What if Odin told Loki, This magical doodad you created is amazing, why don’t you stay in your chambers and create another one, I’ll give you a pat on the head.

What if Loki is even more like Tony than we thought?

Guess I’ll have to write another fanfic just to use this idea.

(Maybe I can use it in my Aquafrost idea.)

This would also make a lot more sense of how royally (heh) Loki did screw up when he became king in the first movie.

OK, yeah, headcanon accepted.

Hm. I might have a revised headcanon for Loki.

I’ve always figured, based partly on various hints from the first movie and also on personality probability, that for the past thousand years Loki has been doing a lot of the work of running Asgard. That he expected to pretty much do all the work of ruling all his life when Thor was king while Thor took the credit. And for the past thousand years Thor’s been just running around killing people while Odin’s been just sitting around deciding who Thor would kill next.

The one problem with this is, how did Loki manage to do all this work for a millennium and not notice his father and brother were evil tyrants?

It just occurred to me that this is the mirror image of Tony’s history. Tony was alternately having fun and inventing stuff and let Obadiah Stone run his company for him, which was how Obie was able to misuse SI and Tony’s inventions and fortune for evil. Just because Tony wasn’t paying attention.

Now I suddenly thought, what if Loki’s story is more like that? What if Odin told Loki, Don’t worry about all that stuff, your brother will be the king, you can do magic and read and enjoy yourself.

What if Odin told Loki, Why don’t you find out where there’s some more magical relics on far-off worlds that I can send Thor to steal for the greater good.

What if Odin told Loki, This magical doodad you created is amazing, why don’t you stay in your chambers and create another one, I’ll give you a pat on the head.

What if Loki is even more like Tony than we thought?

Guess I’ll have to write another fanfic just to use this idea.

(Maybe I can use it in my Aquafrost idea.)