delyth88:

Not that I wish to see this, but I would like to have seen more of this explained in canon. But I suppose I would even watch Loki brushing his teeth, so I’m not sure that carries much weight. Lol

mosellegreen:

mykingdomforapen:

g-slash:

Hey guys?

Heat Exhaustion Symptoms

  • Confusion
  • Dizziness
  • Fainting
  • Fatigue
  • Headache
  • Muscle cramps
  • Nausea
  • Pale skin
  • Profuse sweating
  • Sunken, dark eyes from dehydration

Do I need to remind you what he looked like during this entire scene?

He’s sweaty, his blood circulation isn’t working well due to vasoconstriction (namely, look at how pale his lips are,) and he’s got dark, sunken in eyes.  Now we’ve got a point in which he trips and almost falls for some inexplicable reason.  Well, let me ask you this.

How do you torture a frost giant?

With heat.

Whedon wouldn’t just put in clips like this for no reason.  He’s trying to show us something.  The Loki we see here in this scene is not a healthy Loki, it’s a Loki who is weak and pale and probably focused on just staying conscious—a Loki who has probably been tortured by Thanos into submission and then sent out to do his dirty work for him, that way Thanos will never get the blame.  Loki is just the puppet in the grand master scheme of things.  Thanos is using him.

The Loki we see in Thor is radically different from the Loki we see in The Avengers.  Sure, post-Thor, Loki is emotionally unstable, and maybe a little nuts, but he wasn’t a murderer.  The only reason he went after Jotunheim is because he was having identity issues.  Murder wasn’t something that was normal in his repertoire, yet we see him doing it frequently in The Avengers. The Loki we see at the end of Thor doesn’t want to live, let alone take over an entire realm that he had no interest in before. Something drastic must have happened between the two movies to have made Loki have such a huge character change. 

It’s said that Thanos caught/rescued Loki after he fell from the Bifrost.  Well, what did he do after that?  Thanos is known for having telepathic powers, and since he had to have caught Loki knowing who he was and how strong he was, he likely broke into Loki’s mind to find out all of his fears and weaknesses.  And once he found out all of Loki’s darkest secrets, it was easy to break him.  He and the Chitauri took the Loki we saw in Thor and tortured and corrupted him until he was warped into their own personal demigod, ready to do their bidding.  Why do you think Loki spouts off all these quotes about how “Freedom is life’s great lie,” and “In the end, you will always kneel”?  He’s projecting. 

So, when he trips?  That’s the aftershocks of torture.  That’s a Loki, weakened and struggling to stay upright, pushing forward through the pain because, otherwise? 

“You will long for something as sweet as pain.” 

He has to keep going because the alternative isn’t a question.

Reblogging this photoset again because OH MY WORD LOKI NO.

Reblogging because I had trouble finding the full version.

lokisinsurrection:

thereverett:

lucianalight:

lasimo74allmyworld:

sugarbonesloki:

mykingdomforapen:

g-slash:

Hey guys?

Heat Exhaustion Symptoms

  • Confusion
  • Dizziness
  • Fainting
  • Fatigue
  • Headache
  • Muscle cramps
  • Nausea
  • Pale skin
  • Profuse sweating
  • Sunken, dark eyes from dehydration

Do I need to remind you what he looked like during this entire scene?

He’s sweaty, his blood circulation isn’t working well due to vasoconstriction (namely, look at how pale his lips are,) and he’s got dark, sunken in eyes.  Now we’ve got a point in which he trips and almost falls for some inexplicable reason.  Well, let me ask you this.

How do you torture a frost giant?

With heat.

Whedon wouldn’t just put in clips like this for no reason.  He’s trying to show us something.  The Loki we see here in this scene is not a healthy Loki, it’s a Loki who is weak and pale and probably focused on just staying conscious—a Loki who has probably been tortured by Thanos into submission and then sent out to do his dirty work for him, that way Thanos will never get the blame.  Loki is just the puppet in the grand master scheme of things.  Thanos is using him.

The Loki we see in Thor is radically different from the Loki we see in The Avengers.  Sure, post-Thor, Loki is emotionally unstable, and maybe a little nuts, but he wasn’t a murderer.  The only reason he went after Jotunheim is because he was having identity issues.  Murder wasn’t something that was normal in his repertoire, yet we see him doing it frequently in The Avengers. The Loki we see at the end of Thor doesn’t want to live, let alone take over an entire realm that he had no interest in before. Something drastic must have happened between the two movies to have made Loki have such a huge character change. 

It’s said that Thanos caught/rescued Loki after he fell from the Bifrost.  Well, what did he do after that?  Thanos is known for having telepathic powers, and since he had to have caught Loki knowing who he was and how strong he was, he likely broke into Loki’s mind to find out all of his fears and weaknesses.  And once he found out all of Loki’s darkest secrets, it was easy to break him.  He and the Chitauri took the Loki we saw in Thor and tortured and corrupted him until he was warped into their own personal demigod, ready to do their bidding.  Why do you think Loki spouts off all these quotes about how “Freedom is life’s great lie,” and “In the end, you will always kneel”?  He’s projecting. 

So, when he trips?  That’s the aftershocks of torture.  That’s a Loki, weakened and struggling to stay upright, pushing forward through the pain because, otherwise? 

“You will long for something as sweet as pain.” 

He has to keep going because the alternative isn’t a question.

Reblogging this photoset again because OH MY WORD LOKI NO.

^ that response is why I’m reblogging

I will not enough reblog this

People who still believe that Loki wasn’t coerced to do Thanos’s bidding need to read this.Thanos tortured his so-called daughters. What makes you think he doesn’t do worse to strangers? You think he just hands an infinity stone and an army to Loki because he made a deal with him?

Also the post credit scene of the first Thor movie shows Loki in a much similar state. More proof for the torture and coercion theory.

Honestly, people who think that Loki just suddenly decided to go on a killing spree and get himself a kingdom right after a suicide attempt make me raise my eyebrows.

You really, really don’t need to look hard to see, that Loki is not well in Avengers. He’s shaking, he’s pale, there’s no grace left in his movements, basically every frame screams of how exhausted and worn out he is. This is clearly not the Loki we’ve seen in Thor.

I would also like to add that maybe Ebony Maw was the one who tortured Loki specifically. He’s got the proper ability for brainwashing, but I think Loki was too strong mentally to break into at first, even in his distraught state directly after his suicide attempt. But then what do we see in the Infinity War trailer? Maw torturing Doctor Strange with those glowing needle things. I’ve been speculating that maybe that’s what was used on Loki to break him further for Maw’s coercion ever since I saw them. And frankly I’m not happy with myself for putting those pieces together in the first place.

ktajab77:

I just felt the need to share my observation. LOKI WAS TORTURED BY THANOS. As you can see, this is him in the post credit scene from the first Thor film right before the Avengers. His teeth are yellowed, his skin is bruised and exhausted. Also, if you look at Loki’s appearance in the beginning of the Avengers, he looks ill, as he does here.

ok I’m watching The Avengers again and in Loki’s first scene i couldn’t help but notice how tentative he seems? he doesn’t strut in arrogantly, everything about his body language during the fighting suggests that he’s nervous and on his guard. and when he sceptres Clint his smile looks like one of /relief/, as if he wasn’t sure this would work. it’s super interesting and kind of fits your “performative villainy” bent.

veliseraptor:

Yesss. I have so many feelings about that first scene and everything going on with Loki in it (and that relieved smile, oh damn do I have feelings about that) – because yeah, not only does he look like hell (he stumbles on the way out, and catches himself on one of the people he’s turned), his actions all have this edge of wildness and desperation. He’s not in control and he’s not happy, for all his glorious purpose talk. 

There’s one point in a fic I wrote where someone noticed that for someone supposedly leading an invasion, Loki basically got thrown into the deep end on his own with nothing but the scepter to work with, and how that’s not exactly what you do with a valued commander of your army. 

Loki is pretending, throughout that movie, to be a lot more certain and in charge than he is. It’s in the moments when no one’s watching that he needs to perform for – after his talk with the Other, the lack of affect when he says “send the rest” – that the mask cracks.

The way that Loki chooses to perform villainy – and feels he needs to perform villainy – will never cease to both delight and hurt me.

Lol

wandamorgenstern:

rockworm:

wandamorgenstern:

You guys literally saw and heard Thanos’s own daughter saying her father tortured her and took pieces out of her and replaced them with mechanic ones to make her a better fighter.His own daughter and you have trouble believing Thanos tortured Loki to make him rule Earth or at least push him to the point where he thought he wanted it?Like we don’t have enough clues that scream that he was tortured (aka “We’ll make you wish for something as sweet as pain” loki being on the edge of tears and break down many times etc.)

If Thanos did so horrible things to his own daughter I can’t imagine what he did to a young broken prince that he saw as another puppet to rule the galaxy.Can you?

Thanos is a ruthless warlord who will stop at nothing for galactic domination (unless you’re reading the comics than its just his subconscious wanting him to fail lol).  Like its pretty obvious even to me who isn’t up Loki’s ass that something affected him at the start of Avengers.  To me its not whether or not Thanos did something to him its how much.

Thank you.I am the last person that’s going to justify whatever he’s done but really?Even the whole plan “of his” is full of holes and mistakes.So not Loki..

Lol

thorandlokibrothersforeternity:

wandamorgenstern:

fahrlight:

wandamorgenstern:

You guys literally saw and heard Thanos’s own daughter saying her father tortured her and took pieces out of her and replaced them with mechanic ones to make her a better fighter.His own daughter and you have trouble believing Thanos tortured Loki to make him rule Earth or at least push him to the point where he thought he wanted it?Like we don’t have enough clues that scream that he was tortured (aka “We’ll make you wish for something as sweet as pain” loki being on the edge of tears and break down many times etc.)

If Thanos did so horrible things to his own daughter I can’t imagine what he did to a young broken prince that he saw as another puppet to rule the galaxy.Can you?

Tom confirmed in an old interview (2012 or so) that the Chitauri/Thanos/The Other tortured him. “Anything that would happen to a runaway child that got picked up by the wrong people, happened to Loki”. 

There you have it people

I mean I don’t know how some people are still questioning it when we saw in the credits scene of Thor 1 that he was physically tortured. Does no one remember that scene? (I wish I can post a picture on mobile but it won’t let me)

There ya go.

Lol

small-potato-of-defiance:

mastreworld:

devikafernando:

wandamorgenstern:

You guys literally saw and heard Thanos’s own daughter saying her father tortured her and took pieces out of her and replaced them with mechanic ones to make her a better fighter.His own daughter and you have trouble believing Thanos tortured Loki to make him rule Earth or at least push him to the point where he thought he wanted it?Like we don’t have enough clues that scream that he was tortured (aka “We’ll make you wish for something as sweet as pain” loki being on the edge of tears and break down many times etc.)

If Thanos did so horrible things to his own daughter I can’t imagine what he did to a young broken prince that he saw as another puppet to rule the galaxy.Can you?

THIS

His adopted daughter who he took in specifically to raise as his tool, but yes, there is no reason to believe that Thanos shies away from torture to further his goals. If he sees another being as potentially useful to him, he will order whatever needs to be done to maximize their usefulness. There is no indication, from what I’ve seen, that Thanos feels compassion for others; quite the opposite.

Some people seem to think that torture is done because the inflictor enjoys hurting someone, but it’s usually performed in order to break the person’s spirit and make them compliant. Now why would a being like Thanos abstain from such a method? Especially when he doesn’t need to do the messy work himself?

shadowfire1223:
#what’s funny is#I’ve had personal-headcanon-fuck-actual-canon for like two years that thanos put mechanical parts into loki#because from what I can tell#gamora and nebula’s planets were both in midgard#as in “the realm of midgard” or “the realm where midgard sits” not that they’re earthlings#the guardians of the galaxy from what I can see is placed wholly in earth’s universal realm#disregarding comics because MCU isn’t the comics in the slightest#has thanos ever had something from another realm dropped into his hands?#something of one realm and raised in another?#pre-broken#post-suicide#just having fallen through a wormhole#the very basis of his physical being still weak and malleable#something
near-indestructible and already capable in his youth to handle and
generate the power of the literal BIFROST from his own magic
#like#why WOULDN’T thanos take that opportunity?#why WOULDN’T he begin the process of turning loki into a new child?#yes he used loki to get at the tesseract#AN INFINITY GEM#where we’ve seen TWICE in canon now that MIDGARDIANS CANNOT HANDLE WITHOUT DYING#(unless you’re starlord *eye-roll*)#but he often sent gamora and nebula out to gather things for him#this isn’t a new behavior#it doesn’t mean that was the ONLY purpose he wanted loki for#and the threat of further torture upon failure doesn’t mean that it would last indefinitely#and that once thanos was satisfied with his punishment that he wouldn’t continue training loki#honestly#in my headcanon#it’s so much worse than just thanos wanting to use loki briefly#so much worse

We SAW Loki being tortured onscreen. Literally nobody who saw Avengers does not realize he was being forced against his will. 

starrynightfantasies:

matchgirl42:

Loki; a study in non-performative pain and fear.

He flinches when The Other moves forward into his space

.  And when The Other is behind him and says “You think you know pain?”
as the leviathan slithers in the background, he starts to cry, breathe
rapidly, grind his jaw and swallow convulsively:

You know, when The Other is behind him and there’s no one else to see him cry/do these things, so it’s not performative, it’s genuine.  It’s fear.